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Seth Rogen: 'Totally F***ing' Angry at Ben Carson. Doesn't Know What Carson Said...
“They implied that if their [right-wing] politics were applied to the Holocaust that Jews wouldn’t have been killed,” says a disgusted Seth Rogen. “To me, it wasn’t just about the Holocaust thing. It was about the [Oregon] shooting and how he said that people shouldn’t just stand there and let themselves get shot, and that the correct thing to do if someone has a gun in your back is to point them at someone else and have them go rob that person? I mean, I just read a lot of the stuff this guy was saying and he seemed like someone that I just detested. At face value, what he’s said is absolutely despicable. That guy is totally fuckin’ bonkers.”
Let's set aside the whole outrage over a holocaust analogy here, because we get it. It's a touchy subject, as it should be. That said, it doesn't excuse misrepresenting the argument presented from your opposition. Seth's got two key points here wrong.
1. No one is saying the Jews wouldn't have been killed if "right wing politics" were applied. Ben Carson never said that. Lower taxes, putting the needs of students and parents before unions, expecting abortion clinics to have the same health standards as tattoo parlors, and not destroying the healthcare industry because of an ideological crusade would not have prevented anyone from being killed. The argument is if Jews had been allowed to defend themselves with firearms, it would have been more difficult for the Nazis. Ben Carson used the Holocaust example alongside a long list of examples of tyrannical governments disarming citizens before going full tyranny. It came off of a Noah Webster quote, and he was pointing out a common thread. It was entirely reasonable.
2. Anyone allowed to defend themselves with firearms would make it more difficult for people to kill them. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to see that...
That said, I'm pretty sure Rogan never read Carson's quotes in their entirety. Most people haven't, yet they're so quick to issue their opinion publicly regardless. You can't really have a reasonable conversation with those people.