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ShowDecember 04, 2025
Watch: Steven Crowder x Nick Fuentes
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Today’s show featured Nick Fuentes to break down his real stance on the issues.
The episode started out with a rapid-fire segment where, according to Fuentes, he does not, in fact, “hate all Jews,” nor is he an antisemite, and he does not believe “white people are superior to all other races on the planet.” He also said he does not wish to eradicate all non-white races from the United States, and he is not, in fact, a fed.
Fuentes clarified that he loves America because it is a superpower.
“I love the idea that we have this crazy, productive capacity [with] a huge population and resources,” Fuentes said. “I love political liberty, I like the Constitution, and I like our culture,” adding that he likes that America “has a sense of nationhood,” unlike Europe.
Clarifying his stance on Stalin, Fuentes clarified that while he knows Joseph Stalin was a genocidal maniac, and calling him evil would be putting it lightly, he finds it fascinating how Stalin was able to take Russia and turn it into a superpower under his rule.
“What I find more compelling about Stalin as a ruler is the way he industrialized the country. What Stalin did was take a country with no industry, and with brutal, evil methods I would not support, but he did take the country and drag it into the 21st century.”
He added that a country needs industry and needs to be able to make things, criticizing America for relying on China for so many products.
“We need to race ahead of China, or else we are going to be destroyed. We need industry back in the country. I don’t believe in enslaving people in gulags, but I like the ambitious idea that we are going to catch up in 10 years. We are just going to go out and do it and build it. You don’t need to kill people to do that. I like the idea of urgency and doing it for the sake of power and protection.”
According to Fuentes, America needs to have a ton of industry to be able to protect its supply chains, and the free market has been unsuccessful in that. This is where he believes the government should step in, adding that things like tariffs can help achieve this.
“I want a very smart government. I like what DOGE did. I like the idea of bringing people from the private sector into the government to work on trade deals,” Fuentes said.
Later, while discussing President Trump, Fuentes clarified his disappointment in him not making good on his promises. This includes things like mass deportation, building the wall, and sending the National Guard to several cities that need it.
“He promised mass deportations. We have had nearly 300,000 deportations this year. Is that going to go up in the midterm elections? I don’t see it happening,” Fuentes said. “Republicans have called for our vote all these times, and things are not getting better.”
He added that the reason Trump has not made good on these promises may have to do with the fact that it’s not good for many industries, such as construction.
Moving on to free speech, the two discussed censorship, but Fuentes brought attention to how many of the free speech victories did not happen under Trump, including Fuentes being replatformed and Rumble taking off.
“Now that Trump is back in office, there might be more censorship,” Fuentes said.
Crowder disagreed, as censorship played a big role in the Biden administration.
“It was actually a response. Musk buying Twitter was a reaction to the overreach from the Democrats because they banned the president from Twitter,” Fuentes said. “What is Trump doing to solidify this free speech beachhead that you have built, that Elon has built? Nothing. Was that in the Big Beautiful Bill?”
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