Isn’t it annoying when people say “I told you so”? Uh huh. Let’s just leave it at that and move down to Australia, where in 1996 the government flat out banned guns. Why? A looney lone nutcase went on a shooting rampage in Tasmania and killed a bunch of people. Because leftists believe the guns are the problem and people are just svengalis to guns, they banned all the guns. Of course, Obama, Hater-of-Guns-and-Freedom in Chief, praised the move. And may have been green with indignant envy that the Auzzies did it and the Americans hadn’t. Just guessing here.
While “gun violence” went down, “violence” of the every other variety kind of went up. Weird. Take away people’s means of self-defense, and they can’t defend themselves. That’s got to be called something…lemme think about it…Oh right, LOGIC. Behold charts:
Source: Gunfactsinfo.com
But since the gun ban, guns have been creeping back into Australian hands. They’ve belly-crawled across the barren desert, they’ve slithered across rivers, they’ve infiltrated homes, they’re beating wives and abusing children! No, actually they’re helping the Australians. Defend themselves. Dang it, there’s that logic thing again. And now the Auzzies are hoping to get their hands on a Turkish shotgun, which has the leftists all in a crazy twitter of paranoia. So not much of a routine change, actually.
Since the gun ban, Australia has issued 37,000 gun licenses in the past five years, a jump from 177,675 to 215,462. In New South Wales (NSW), gun ownership has gone up 10%.
Alarmingly, in 22 of the state’s 600 postcodes, registered guns outnumber people.
Here’s the part that will annoy every anti-gun advocate in a thousand mile radius:
Got that? Gun ban in 1996. The government flat out confiscated weapons. It was mandatory. A gun grab. Now more people than ever have guns. Gun crime has not gone up. Because gun bans totally work…NOT.
Not to worry, the Australian media is worried about impending doom and is already blaming the United States for any future issues they might have. They’re being sneaky about it, but here it is:
Detective Superintendent Mick Plotecki said the United State’s popular national gun laws, and the country’s influence on Australia through popular culture, was likely to be driving the increase in licence holders in the state.
‘There is an element in the community who are swayed by the US culture that guns are a right rather than a privilege,’ Supt Plotecki told News Corp.
Yes, they’re blaming the movies. It’s the Terminator’s fault, you guys. It’s totally Mad Max’s fault. It’s totally the fault of America and stuff. But hey, for now we Americans can revel in the idea we’re also exporting some of our nifty ideas, like freedom and the basic human right to self-defense. Which is a right, by the way, not a privilege. Man, that logic thing keeps coming up. Annoying.
“It’s not the gun that makes the danger, it’s the person that makes the danger, and blaming a gun for the danger is the wrong way around.”
Green with envy. Not jealousy. The correct word for this context is envy.
G’Day Mr. Crowder !
I was born in & lived in Australia for the first 35 years of my life & the latter 12+ in the wonderful Us of A !
The millennials in Australia think that there was never a gun culture there but it’s not true,… During the 70’s & early 80’s my dad & many others had a .22 bolt action rifle in the trunk of the car just wrapped up in a blanket, especially if you lived in the rural areas or even the reaches of the “Burbs”.
Now,… It was more to put down injured animals that were hit by a car than it was for protection but none the less.
In my early 20’s I joined a Gun Club & went to the local Police Station to get my “license”,… I specifically remember reading in big bold print on the application, a sign that said: “You MUST have a valid reason for applying for this license,… Self Protection IS NOT a valid reason” !
I purchased a .22 Ruger Semi Auto Pistol because there were many competitions to enter with a .22.
I was NOT allowed to leave the Gun Shop with it but had to pay for secure shipping to the Club where I had to show ID before it was taken into the range for me.
Very very difficult to own a hand gun now.
Even if you own a Rifle in Australia you MUST have three separate locked metal boxes for your gun,… One for the rifle, one for the bolt & one for the ammunition.
The mass shooting you mentioned was in Port Arthur & witnesses say that the man was mumbling deranged mutterings about the Japanese taking over as he approached the Cafe to do his evil bidding.
Finally I want to go back to the recent hostage situation in the middle of Sydney when a crazy Muslim & ISIS sympathizer used a shotgun to take innocent chocolate lovers hostage.
I gotta tell you that the first thing I thought of when it happened was,… “If this prick tried that here where I live in America then a dozen good citizens would have ended it before it started” !
Mate,you aren’t fully across the 96 national gun laws and buy back scheme: semi auto centre fire and rimfire rifles and pump action and semi auto shotguns were banned to almost everyone apart from farmers and professional shooters. We were compensated fully for our firearms. So, lever action and pump action rifles, two barreled shotguns and bolt action firearms were all legal, but self defense was no longer a legitimate reason to own a firearm, even a slug gun. Pistols in Oz were not affected, as they had always been controlled. The rise in gun ownership is simply due to young shooters at the time of the law changes having kids who are now old enough to buy guns (18 years and older). However, illegal pistols and semi auto long arms use by criminals is growing. We must store our firearms unloaded and with the action removed or locked in a gun safe, ammunition separately, to comply with the law. To defend ourselves with a firearm, we need at least 5 minutes warning. The recent hoo-ha here was due to new versions of the lever action 1887 shotgun being introduced here. The anti gunners wet their pants and Labor
and the Greens frothed at the mouth. Sensibly, our federal gov didn’t knee jerk, but we Aussie gun owners know our freedom to own firearms is on a count down.
I live in Brazil! Here we have gun control and the results are terrible! I mean, 60,000+ homecides a year, huuuuuuuge number of robbery, hijacking, etc. that’s why i keep a gun…it’s illegal but i prefer pay to not stay in jail than being murdered by a crminal. Listen to the experience: second amendment really is the BEST law in human history! That’s why Americans should defend it and keep guns. Remember: “an armed population is the foundation of civil freedom”
Trust me, we will. I keep an ar-15 right next to my bed and have a 9mm Glock in my car. I also have 15 other guns. If the government ever does try to confiscate is will cause a civil war. There are 350 million guns in the US and sales are breaking records every month. The gun lobby is very powerful and they even have the dems in their pocket. The gun battle has already been lost, they just haven’t accepted it. When something like the CA shooting happens, the fuss looks bigger than it is because the libs own the media. I love playing against Brazilians in BF4.
Compensated fully? Im guessing the 300 odd dollars i got for my grandfathers worls war 1 and 2 guns is full compensation? Just to have them then thrown in a fire. Giving them up was one of the hardest things i ever did.
If it’s not for competition or for legitimate hunting reasons then nobody should have guns, why do you need them?
To tell your derelict mates how cool you are?
Aussies don’t have guns, regardless of your fake made up graphs and the bullshit they represent.
Bill doesn’t have guns, Bill is smart, be like Bill!
Well then Steven Crowder, based upon your relative logic – why can’t Iran and North Korea have Nuclear weapons?
darren, you’re a real special kind of stupid
Well Pat seems to me, and everyone with an IQ over 50, unless you explain yourself with a counter argument- you are the stupid one.
No, Pat is correct.
The argument against North Vietnam having nuclear weapons is the same as the argument against criminals having firearms. They’re irresponsible criminals. Unfortunately they’re going to get them anyway because people like yourself who can’t see the moral difference between a bank robber with a gun and a bank guard with a gun have too much power.
By the way I’m not a lefty, I am to the right politically.
“A looney lone nutcase went on a shooting rampage in Tasmania and killed a bunch of people.” That “bunch of people” mounted to 35 innocent men/women and children who were cold bloodily murdered and they not only actually have names, they indeed have family who are left behind who no doubt miss them.
I know the counter argument will be that if someone is there with a gun someone could have stopped him and that guns don’t kill people – people kill people.
Well RPG’s don’t kill people – people kill people and the same will rogue Countries like Iran and North Korea, Nuclear weapons don’t kill people – people kill people. .
Someone with a firearm could have stopped Martin Bryant, a man, a woman, even a child with a firearm.
To restate my point above, North Vietnam is a rogue state with nuclear capability. That is the criminal with a gun. What gun control advocates are saying is that despite North Vietnam having nuclear capability, the relatively more sane and sensible countries should not.
Gun restrictions only disarm the public.
Why do you idiots keep saying “North Vietnam”.
The police (carrying GUNS) were summoned to stop the shooter.. Had several students been armed the fight would have been over quickly or would never occured. Most of the shooters are mentally ill. Gun free zones invite trouble while Origon is an open carry state the college had a no guns policy, maybe it was unenforceable but because of it no one in that class had a firearm an thus were easy targets. George N Roll, Ltc. ret USAF
I have never understood where the pro-gun movement draws the line on personally owned weapons. Should law-abiding US citizens have the right to own RPGs,manually operated anti-aircraft missiles, tanks, artillery?
Honestly, why limit them at all. A law abiding citizen may have little use for a tank, but if they want to keep one in the garage in case of tyranny, or to shoot at rocks in the outback, then what business is it of mine. Anyone willing to put that much investment into random murder could already use homemade chemical weapons or explosives to create much more destruction than any tank could.
The vital qualifier here is ‘law-abiding’ citizens. The problem I believe with American laws is that they have set the bar for qualifying to own a gun rather poorly, and then lumped everyone who passes this standard together and punished them all for the actions of a few. What needs to be done is a raising of the standard for people being able to obtain a gun (as long as the government requires the same standards of anyone they employ to use a gun. No exceptions) and then a massive deregulation of what the people who pass these standards are able to do. The sensible part of the anti-gun crowd gets as many restrictions as would actually help, and the shooters (many of them ex-military, and as competent in the use of their guns as any lackey of the government) wouldn’t have to put up with so much bullshit.
Other countries only restrict their population further, believing That beer-gutted police have special mental, emotional and physical capabilities that enable them to deal with the incredible complexity of a firearm, and private citizens can never hope to achieve such competence.
Finally. Who has the right to place these restrictions in the first place. If it is logical to restrict the rights of all citizens to bear arms because of a minority of bad people, then it would be insane to allow any government to bear arms when so many have waged war and killed their own citizens, yet not only are governments allowed to keep terribly destructive weapons but are allowed without a second thought to dictate to others what they are allowed to own.
Sorry that this is long, but this position requires a full justification.
Actually, Frank, law abiding citizens in the US who fill out the proper forms do in fact own machine guns, tanks, APC, artillery, and RPG. There has not been a single incident of these weapons being used to harm innocent people.
Meanwhile, the government, who loves us, funnels machine guns, MANPADS, tanks, and artillery to ISIS backed ‘moderate’ Muslim rebels.
Who is really the danger to the public good?
Short answer is YES.
Tanks are motor vehicles and their fore one needs a heavy vehicle license to drive one. Nuclear weapons are nuclear devices and should regulated. Just like one should have a license to own or carry a gun. However the license holder should have a choice as the gun they want to buy. Though in Ontario you are only allowed 3 round clips or 3 shells for semi auto rifles and shotguns. If one is mean to gods little creatures .Again this not the old west nor the wild frontier one doesn’t need a gun if living in the city which over 80% of the population of Canada and the United States does.
Robert M: Really! “…one doesn’t need a gun if living in the city which over 80% of the population of Canada and the United States does.” Where in the heck do you think most crime and homicides happen!? Out in rural USA? You’re so stupid I can’t even find the words to describe your lack of logic. The most dangerous predator on God’s earth is a criminal intent on robbing or killing…you don’t know when, where, or why it will happen, but it happens. Where do you find most of these criminals? You guessed it – right there in the cities of America and Canada (and the UK, France, and…), the ones you want to disarm. WHO is responsible for protecting you, or your family, during that crucial first 10-15 minutes BEFORE the police arrive, if they arrive at all? Why, it’s YOU! And only you. If you aren’t capable of protecting yourself, you better hope like heck that someone carrying is close by. You and your nut job liberals won’t admit that each year, as many as 500,000 to 3,000,000 crimes are prevented just because a GOOD guy/gal had a gun (CDC statistic). The ‘Old West’ is a myth. Very few gun fights actually happened. What mostly happened was good guys used guns to stop bad guys. Not much has really changed. In case I haven’t made myself clear, “If you disarm the good guys, only the bad guys will have guns.” Occurs to me that bad guys like them apples a whole lot better than having a whole lot of good guys with guns! I abhor mass killings. I abhor bad guys shooting good guys. And, I despise idiots (mostly liberals and Democrats) who think that disarming good guys will suddenly make bad guys become good guys. I thank God, and our Founding Fathers, for our Second Amendment.
Just a minor thing, Mad Max is an Australian franchise. That is all. – An Australian (Rest of the article is great).
Sorry the US is not wild dangerous place with the citizen running around shooting at each other.
There is thousands of gun laws in our country already we don’t need any more. This is all political balcony with false information feed to the public. It has been illegal to own automatic weapons since the roaring twenties. You can not buy a gun without a back ground check at gun shows. I know I have tried and my background was checke all the way to my teenage years and I’m almost 70 stop buying the bull in unforced laws and attorneys citing deal and letting criminal run loose is more of a problem that gun owners.